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Friday, 09 November 2012 09:06 Marty Hayes
Hi everyone, sorry it has been so long since I posted a Blog post.  And, even worse, it is a Blog post about rising prices.  But, as you know, everything is going up, and it looks like there is no help in sight.  So, we had to initiate a modest price increase.  They are as follows:

2-day class, from $325 to $365
1-day class from $150 to $185
Handgun Safety Seminar: From $50 to $65

Now, here is the good news.  Sign up before Jan. 10, 2013 and get the old prices.  The new schedule is posted on the web site, so don't delay, (if you want to take advantage of the lower prices.) That is all, but I promise to start Blogging again and more often.

Friday, 06 January 2012 11:50 Marty Hayes
Okay, I will admit I am not a fan of appendix carry.  I have never found it necessary to point the gun at or very near my penis and testicals in order to conceal a handgun.  To me, the risk of injury outweighs the benefit of the carry position.  But, the carry position is gaining in popularity to the extent that one cannot watch a Wed. night gun show on the Outdoor channel without seeing at least one, of not several of the "stars" carrying that way, and singing it's praises.  I want to know what the heck I am missing...

So, educate me folks.  Here is your chance to convince a wildly popular and long respected firearms trainer why he should change his opinion on this method of carry.
Tuesday, 20 December 2011 09:01 Marty Hayes
The momentum is beginning.  Dave Workman recently wrote about SB5418 here, and did a very good job exploring some of the issues:


And I understand the issue has been discussed on WA CCW e-mail list, and as the comments indicate,  and according to the comments on the previous article, we are starting to get some State Senators contacted. At this time, it is vitally important to contact your own state Senator, and ask him or her to co-sponsor this bill, or if they are one of the co-sponsors, then thank them for doing so.

I am starting a legal analysis of the issue, going back through the cases referred to in State v. Brightman, to give a clearer picture on how the WA Supreme Court came about to eliminate our per se right to use deadly force against a home invader.  More to follow.
Thursday, 15 December 2011 12:28 Marty Hayes
Folks, this is VERY important.  It is imperative that we law abiding armed citizens support this new proposed legislation, and furthermore, it is vital that you contact your own State Senator and ask them to co-sponsor this bill.  This is what occurred: in 2005, the Washington State Supreme Court nullified our castle doctrine law in Washington state, taking away our per se right to use deadly force againt persons breaking into our homes, and replaced it with a generalized "necessity based" use of force scheme.  In other words, you must make sure the burglar is placing your life in danger before shooting.  I don't know how a homeowner accomplishes this without further endangering his or her life, so that is the problem.  I have copied the language of the bill from the Legislatve website, below:


State of Washington 62nd Legislature 2011 Regular Session

By Senators Becker, Benton, Stevens, Sheldon, Schoesler, Delvin, Morton, and Honeyford

Read first time 01/25/11. Referred to Committee on Judiciary.

AN ACT Relating to the use of force in self-defense; amending RCW 9A.16.020 and 9A.16.050; and adding new sections to chapter 9A.16 RCW.

BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF WASHINGTON: Sec. 1. RCW 9A.16.020 and 1986 c 149 s 2 are each amended to read as follows:

The use, attempt, or offer to use force upon or toward the person of another is not unlawful in the following cases:

(1) Whenever necessarily used by a public officer in the performance of a legal duty, or a person assisting the officer and acting under the officer's direction;

(2) Whenever necessarily used by a person arresting one who has committed a felony and delivering him or her to a public officer competent to receive him or  her into custody;

(3) Whenever used by a party about to be injured, or  by another lawfully aiding him or her, in preventing or attempting to prevent an offense against his or her  person, or a malicious trespass, or other malicious interference with real or personal property lawfully in his or her possession, in case the force is not  more than is necessary or is permitted pursuant to RCW  9A.16.050;

4) Whenever reasonably used by a person to detain someone who enters or remains unlawfully in a building or on real property lawfully in the possession of such person, so long as such detention is reasonable in duration and manner to investigate the reason for the detained person's presence on the premises, and so long as the premises in question did not reasonably appear to be intended to be open to members of the public;


5) Whenever used by a carrier of passengers or the carrier's authorized agent or servant, or other person assisting them at their request in expelling from a carriage, railway car, vessel, or other vehicle, a passenger who refuses to obey a lawful and reasonable regulation prescribed for the conduct of passengers, if such vehicle has first been stopped and the force used is not more than is necessary to expel the offender with reasonable regard to the offender's personal safety;


(6) Whenever used by any person to prevent a mentally ill, mentally incompetent, or mentally disabled person from committing an act dangerous to any person, or in enforcing necessary restraint for the protection or restoration to health of the person, during such period only as is necessary to obtain legal authority for the restraint or custody of the person.

Sec. 2. RCW 9A.16.050 and 1975 1st ex.s. c 260 s 9A.16.050 are each amended to read as follows:

(1) Homicide is also justifiable when committed ((either)):


(a) In the lawful defense of the slayer, or his or her husband, wife, parent, child, brother, or sister, or of any other person in his or her presence or company, when there is reasonable ground to apprehend a design on the part of the person slain to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury to the slayer or to any such person, and there is imminent danger of such design being accomplished;

((or (2)))

(b) In the actual resistance of an attempt to commit a felony upon the slayer, in his or her presence, or upon or in a dwelling,((or)) residence, other place of abode, or occupied vehicle in which he or she is;

(c) In the event the slayer had a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself, herself, or another person in a dwelling, residence, other place of abode, or occupied vehicle.

(2) Under subsection (1) of this section, a person does not have a duty to retreat if the person is in a place where he or she has a right to be.

NEW SECTION. Sec. 3. A new section is added to chapter 9A.16 RCW to read as follows:

(1) A person is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent peril of death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another person when using deadly force pursuant to RCW 9A.16.050(1)(c) if:

(a) The person against whom the deadly force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering or had unlawfully and forcibly entered a dwelling, residence, other place of abode, or occupied vehicle, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person's will from a dwelling, residence, other place of abode, or occupied vehicle; and

b) The person who uses deadly force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.

(2) The presumption set forth in subsection (1) of this   section does not apply if:

(a) The person against whom the deadly force is used has the right to be in or is a lawful resident of the dwelling, residence, other place of abode, or vehicle, such as an owner, lessee, or titleholder, and there is not an injunction for protection from domestic violence or a written pretrial supervision order of no contact against that person;

(b) The person sought to be removed is a child or grandchild, or is otherwise in the lawful custody or under the lawful guardianship of, the person against whom the deadly force is used;

(c) The person who uses deadly force is engaged in an unlawful activity or is using the dwelling, residence, other place of abode, or vehicle to further an unlawful activity; or

(d) The person against whom the deadly force is used is a general or limited authority Washington peace officer, as defined in RCW 35 10.93.020, who enters or attempts to enter a dwelling, residence, other place of abode, or vehicle in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identifies himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person entering or attempting to enter was a law enforcement officer.

(3) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person's dwelling, residence, other place of abode, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.

(4) As used in this section:

(a) "Dwelling" means any building or structure, including any attached porch, though moveable or temporary, or a portion thereof, which is used or ordinarily used by a person for lodging.

(b) "Residence" means a dwelling in which a person resides either temporarily or permanently or is visiting as an invited guest.

14 NEW SECTION. Sec. 4. A new section is added to chapter 9A.16 RCW to read as follows:

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in RCW 9A.16.020 or 9A.16.050, is justified in using such force and is   immune from criminal prosecution for the use of such force and from civil liability for injuries or death resulting from the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used was a general or limited authority

Washington peace officer, as defined in RCW 10.93.020, who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identifies himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law   enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, "criminal prosecution" includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1) of this section, but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.


(3) The court shall award reasonable attorneys' fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1) of this section.

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Thursday, 17 November 2011 14:08 Marty Hayes

It’s been a whirlwind since my last (second) blog posting, when I announced some changes coming next year to FAS.  Since that posting, I have taught a course, hopped on a plane and flew to Tulsa, filmed 14 segments for Best Defense TV for my other job, (as President of Armed Citizens’ Legal Defense Network), then flew back Tuesday.  Yesterday was a down day for me, just did a little e-mail, finished a book I started on the plane from Dallas, and napped.  (I blame it on the jet lag).  So, let’s finish up the “changes” theme, so we can move on to more gritty repose…

4.  The fourth major change for FAS in 2012, is the elimination of the Women’s Only program at FAS.  Many of our long time students know that I cut my teeth in the training business teaching Women’s Only classes at Continental Sportsman Indoor Gun Range, in Mountlake Terrace.  This was back in 1988-1990.  The courses were very successful, and I learned so much about teaching, not only teaching women but teaching in general, that I owe in part my success as an instructor to these first women students.  From there, when I started FAS, I also offered women’s only classes, but found that when I didn’t have a captive audience such as I had at Continental Sportsman, it was more difficult to get the volume of women necessary to offer classes for women only.  Eventually I dropped the offerings, but after moving down to Onalaska, and after Gila started teaching classes and we started developing a cadre of women instructors, we re-introduced them, teaching a few a year.  We also started a “women only” shooting group, called the Women’s Study Group.  But, all good things must come to an end, and last weekend, we saw the last of the gatherings of our lady students.  The participation had started to dwindle over the last couple of years, down to only a handful of ladies each session this year.  Well, even though we didn’t charge much for the program, and losing the income certainly will not terribly hurt the bottom line here at FAS, what was difficult was tying up both range time and instructor time to manage the program.  So, a heartfelt thank-you to all the ladies who participated over the past several years, and I hope we made a difference in your confidence and ability to handle guns and  ultimately, if necessary, use one for self-defense.

5.  IDPA Matches… After a several-year hiatus from the competitive shooting arena, we put our toe in the water of IDPA shooting last year, and held 6 shooting matches.  It was nice to see some old friends from the shooting world again, and meet many more new ones.  We had such a good time, we decided to continue for the next year, and we start up matches here in March, (the second Saturday).  Visit the IDPA matches link on the web site for more information.  Suffice it to say, that if I didn’t think it was worthwhile for serious students of the gun to participate in these types of endeavors, we wouldn’t have started them up again.  Contrary to what some people have said over the years, I actually do believe competitive shooting strengthens a person’s ability to use a handgun for self-defense, as long as the venue which doesn’t encourage counterproductive skills to develop.  For example, the late, great Jim Cirillo was an advocate of IDPA shooting matches, and in his day, he was also quite the competitor.  Please consider joining us as we start up the 2012 match season with an entire low light match in march, (complete with wood stove in the low light range blazing away!)    

6.  All our favorite guests are coming back next year!  Next year, we will have all the usual suspects back for their own unique brand of instruction.  Chuck Taylor, Mas Ayoob, Ken Hackathorn and Rob Pincus have all been scheduled to come visit the Pacific Northwest, along with friend and excellent Instructor Tom Given, from his own school in the South East, Rangemaster.  Tom will be teaching an instructor development course, for 4 days of advanced pistol handling skills and instructor development training.  Please understand that this class is not geared just for professional instructors, but also for serious students of the gun, who simply want to become the best they can be.

Okay, that’s it for changes for next year.  The new website is functioning well, so feel free to reserve your classes anytime.  Marty

Thursday, 10 November 2011 10:07 Marty Hayes

We are getting questions regarding several changes I have implemented for the coming calendar year, so I figured I would take a moment and discuss those.

1)  After 5 years of a successful working relationship with Norpoint Shooting and Training Range in Arlington, FAS will not be teaching there in 2012. This was an amicable decision between Norpoint and FAS, and we will continue to work with them on a cordial basis. Please understand that there is no secret conspiracy theories regarding this split, we simply decided that FAS should draw back to its own home range for its programs, and that Norpoint should be free to develop their own curriculum of course offerings, taking into account the physical attributes and limitations of an indoor range. We have enjoyed the association over the years, and while we will miss seeing the people we have trained up at Arlington and in the North Seattle area, they are certainly welcome to come to Onalaska to continue their training. We of course, also recommend that our North End students check out the offerings which Norpoint should be posting soon. We wish Brian and the crew at Norpoint the best of luck and success going forward.

2)  We have put out our 2012 schedule for FAS, and have made a couple notable changes to the programs. First off, we were going to raise prices for 2012, because our cost of doing business has gone up considerably since the last price hike several years ago. But, I was talked out of it due to economic conditions, and perhaps that will work out okay. But, what that means, is more likely than not prices will rise in 2013. The second big news, (and this goes along with the pricing issue) is that we will be offering ½ price re-takes for some of the skill development classes. The purpose is that people still need to train, and I know thousands of you have not been shooting regularly since your last class, be that 1 year ago, or 10 years ago. If you haven’t had recent training or practice, how can you expect the critical skills you learned in class to be there for you when you need them? So, with that in mind, for the following classes, you are allowed a re-take for half-price: Defensive Handgun, Advanced Defensive Handgun, Level 1 Rifle, Tactical Rifle, Close Quarters Carbine, Defensive Shotgun, Advanced Defensive Shotgun and Close Quarters Shotgun. We will also offer half-price retakes of Handgun Retention and Disarming. This will be mentioned on the individual class offerings on the new website. For those old timers who remember the old FAS-1, 2, 3 labels on the classes, it also extends to you for the appropriate level of class.

3)  Marty is stepping back from teaching! With the necessity to help our other fledgling business (the Armed Citizens’ Legal Defense Network) succeed, I have made the decision to step even further back from the day to day teaching of the classes here at FAS. It is a weird feeling to be doing this, as I have been teaching firearms classes (almost weekly) for over 20 years. But, as I grow older and attempt to prioritize the remaining working years of my life, I have come to the realization that I can’t do it all. And frankly, I am getting tired of trying, tired of working 7 days a week often times for two or three weeks at a time. I can only take this action because over the past dozen-plus years, I have been joined in our mission to teach the best firearms training courses for the money here in the Puget Sound area by an incredibly talented, loyal and sincere group of instructors who have been teaching along side me for this time. You of course know these guys and gals, because they likely have been your instructor through one or more of your classes. In fact, it is not uncommon for a person to take 4 or 5 classes from us, and I only meet them when they get to Advanced Tactical Handgun, or one of the special interest seminars I have been teaching. I will still be around most weekends, and may drop in on a class or two at times, and I will also likely fill the back-up role if someone has a last-minute conflict and can’t teach that weekend. And, I will of course, be directly responsible for the curriculum, and ensuring the material presented during our classes is presented in the manner that I want it done in. This will not change.

I think this is enough for people to digest in one blog posting, stay tuned for another later describing the rest of the changes for next year at FAS!


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Sat Aug 26, 2017
Active Shooter Interdiction
Sat Aug 26, 2017
Advanced Defensive Shotgun
Fri Sep 08, 2017
Precision Rifle
Sat Sep 09, 2017
Defensive Handgun
Sat Sep 16, 2017
Handgun Safety Seminar
Sun Sep 17, 2017
Concealed Carry 101-Class Full!
Sun Sep 17, 2017
IDPA and 3-Gun Match
Sat Sep 23, 2017
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Fri Sep 29, 2017
Level 4 Handgun
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Fundamentals of Home Defense

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